I wish to tell about this resource the following fact. I have made wrongly one order. And I have there and then cancelled him. It was one month ago. But this order has received status Canceled Order only in three weeks! On my numerous letters I have received only one answer. It was very much not operatively. It is possible for itself to present that could happen in more serious situation. It causes mistrust to this resource.... And though there there is a system of recalls of buyers about bargains with sellers as on e-bay, but stories and quantity(amount) of these recalls at some sellers do not inspire trust, I suspect that partially they are false.
I ask all who had what or experience of purchases with www.tootoomart.com to keep recalls in my blog www.skandalist.blogspot.com. If this experience was positive, please keep the recall about www.tootoomart.com in the WHITE list www.vivatprofit.blogspot.com. All thanks.

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The PREVENTION: this data about reliability dhgate.com is not checked up. The request to all who had trade with a resource dhgate.com

To inform on the experience positive or negative. It will save many people from swindle(fraud) in the Internet and will give the chance to them to save the money.

There are some features which speak well http://www.dhgate.com. It: you can use Paypal. You can allow this dispute like Paypal and even on the site dhgate.com.
On http://www.alibaba.com it is not present. Though there much is not present... For example, systems of recalls of buyers and sellers after each bargain. I wrote to administration of site ALIBABA and on a forum, but it is useless. In the answer has received only tergiversations, as well as many.

http://www.dhgate.com has a rating system with a feedback, very similar eBay. It inspires a few(little;bit) trust, whether not so?

How they position themselves? What do they want? Here only something from their purposes: the electronic market working all day and night, use of the latest electronic technologies and PROFITABILITY! Unless there are now people whom PROFITABILITY And PROFIT does not interest?))

Dear friends, whether inform all the TRUTH it or LIE? Write the history here in comments please..

)) You yet did not receive such letter? :

“++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
__________________ Lucky.... Winner
Toyota Award Promo
ю= toyotadept333@live.com
750.000.00 GBP has been award to your email ID in this Year Toyota Promo.

Name:.............. Address:..........
Occupation:........ Phone Number:.....
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Do not hurry to send the data....
They are swindlers!

They can promise to you and one million dollars, but it is all LIE! As well as in their other letter:
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__________toyotapromoinfo@yahoo.cn)
TOYOTA INTERNATIONAL LOTTO (HEADQUARTERS)
Customer Service Department Affiliate of Toyota Japan.
#28 Kanashiwa road Tokyo JP

We are pleased to inform you of the announcement made today, You are among the winners of the TOYOTA CAR INTERNATIONAL PROMOTION PROGRAM Participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from 2,500,000 email addresses of individuals and companies from all part of the world as part of our electronic business Promotions Program.

As a result of your visiting various websites we are running the e-business promotions for. You/Your Company email address, attached to ticket number 719-266-1319, with serial number 902-66 drew the lucky numbers 5,12, 30, 11, 17, 43 and Bonus number 12, Your INSURANCE Number: FLS433/453L/G MSA and consequently you won in the Second Category of the TOYOTA FORTUNE LOTTO DRAW.

You have therefore been approved for the payment of the sum of $1,000,000.00USD (One Million United States Dollars) in cash, including a Toyota highlander which is the winning present/amount for the Second category winners. This is from the total prize money of US$2,650,000.00 shared among the international winners in the Second category.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Please be informed that your won fund of the sum of $1,000,000.00USD is now with the payee centre. Contact our agent and give them your full names so that they will re-insure your winning fund under your full names. Together with the port where your winning car should be shiped to.

To begin your claim, please call our claim agent or send email immediately to:-.
Certificate Agent, Toyota Email Lotto

Mr. Steven Wu
Email: stevenwu@euroasiacn.org
toyota.lotto@euroasiacn.org
Tel: 0086-13798143397

NOTE: In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications, Please quote your

1. Full name:
2. Address/contact number:
3. Nationality:
4. Sex/marital status:
5. Age:
6. Occupation:
7. Tel/fax:

Sincerely,
Mrs Ing Chuny Liu
Hon Cordinator _____________ “

This material is taken from dispatch issue... It is published without changes and yours faithfully to the author who is indicated more low... I do not bear any responsibility for this information and I do not try to advertise by means of it indicated by it the Internet - resources and henceforth.

Business dealing with China: examples and advices. Issue №2.

In last issue of dispatch I have told about some general features of business dealing with China and about principles of search of the Chinese companies-manufacturers.

In this issue I will describe 3 of the most popular b2b the Internet catalogue where it is possible to find the Chinese business partners.
As I already spoke, the concept of sites www.alibaba.com , www.made-in-china.com , www.globalsources.com essentially does not differ: the company-manufacturer is registered there, indicates the contact data and places the information on the goods (a picture and the detailed description). In the Chinese version Alibaba.com the company can indicate also the prices for the goods (about it hardly more low).
Each site has a system of a rating of the companies. The above the rating, the is more than company goods will be accessible in search, that above they will be in the list of results, the more possibly the potential client will notice them. Sometimes the rating and the company status is increased automatically, depending on its activity, time of registration, recalls of clients, quantities of the goods, etc. And sometimes to increase a rating it is possible having paid the certain sum to the founder of a site.
Anyway, high position in rating system of a site speaks about serious intentions of the company, about its desire to receive there are more than clients. And on the contrary, low ratings testify to unwillingness of the company to participate in Internet marketing.

So, the small comparative analysis of the most popular Internet catalogues:

Alibaba.com
Pluses:
Very much a considerable quantity of the registered companies from every corner of the globe;
Activity of all participants of a site;
RSS tapes of the new goods;
Considerable quantity of the help information;
Forum on which it is possible to ask a question and to receive the intelligible answer.
Minuses:
Very much the considerable quantity of the companies and the goods frequently confuses;
Considerable quantity of the out-of-date goods or the goods without the description and with bad photos;
Spam considerable quantity - after registration your mail box will be complete offers to purchase mp3 a player or firm кроссовки on cheap stuff.

Made-in-China.com
Pluses:
On a site the Chinese companies are presented only;
There is a possibility to conduct search of the companies in a province;
By search in a keyword, it is possible to choose, from what category to show the goods;
At goods viewing it is possible to see, whom is the company which has published the goods: Manufacturer (manufacturer) or Supplier (supplier) (disputable advantage as any company can indicate at registration that it the manufacturer, anybody does not check it).
Minuses:
By search of the goods, mouse click on the interesting goods opens not the detailed description of the goods, and a page of the company which have published these goods;
Considerably smaller quantity of the goods and the companies, than on Alibabe;
Poor enough information component of a site.

GlobalSources.com
Poles:
The flexible system of search allows to find more suitable goods;
Names of categories of the goods are intuitively more clear, than on Alibabe;
In the contact data it is possible to see an e-mail of the manufacturer of the goods;
Possibility to use the tool “compare all suppliers” (to compare all manufacturers).
Minuses:
The number of the goods and the registered companies in times is less, than on Alibabe;
Advertising considerable quantity in the most unexpected places;
Pages are loaded much more slowly, than Made-in-China.com or Alibaba.com (it is probable, because of territorial features of Internet channels of Vladivostok, is possible in other regions of Russia of difference in speed of loading are not so significant);
Not clear system of a rating of the companies-manufacturers.

Summarising this small analysis it is possible to tell that Alibaba.com is the indisputable leader among b2b sites on which manufacturers of China are presented. By the way, recently (in August 2007) at a site has appeared new design, has improved system of categories, some search functions were added.

Separately it is necessary to mention a forum on Alibabe: it is a separate powerful information resource activity on which is encouraged with founders of a site. For qualitative messages users get points which can be used for an advertisement positioning of the company on main page of a site, in each subject of a forum there is a possibility to "vote" for the best post of a subject - best answer; to the user who has written the best answer, the considerable quantity of points, etc. Thus is given, at a forum constantly there are the people ready fast and precisely to answer your question if only to get for it points from moderators.

Other powerful tool for communication of sellers and buyers - Alibaba Messenger. It is a small free aaplet which can be downloaded on a site. Its essence - an exchange of instant messages (as MSN, ICQ, Skype and др). The main counter - fast to contact the manufacturer of the pleasant goods (if the manufacturer in a network near all its goods button Contact Now pressing on which opens мессенджер for direct tie with the manufacturer hangs).

One more moment: each of considered sites has a Chinese version which hardly differs from the English. There also the companies which can publish the goods that the buyer could find them are registered. By the way, on www.china.alibaba.com the goods are presented together with the approximate prices that gives the chance to evaluate profitableness of the bargain at once. Main difference of the Chinese versions that the companies which are aimed only at home market (the Chinese practically there are registered cannot imagine that any European can understand the Chinese hieroglyphs). Frequently search in the Chinese versions of sites happens much more productive, especially if it is necessary to find manufacturers of the goods which is in great demand in home market.

Now it is a little about our site www. Made-in-China.ru . On him the goods of the companies which wish to do business with the Russian buyers are published. That is the companies are registered on the Chinese version of a site, add the goods, and we translate them and we publish on Russian version. Process this very difficult from a technical aspect, but our experts try to make its easier and clear both for the companies-manufacturers, and for buyers.
We ask Chineses to indicate approximate prices of goods that it was possible to evaluate profitableness of purchase even prior to the beginning of negotiations.
We hope that the quantity of the goods in the catalogue will be shortly great enough that the Russian businessmen could find the Chinese business partners on our site, after all is much easier to communicate with the company which has already wanted to work with Russia, having placed the information on with us .

In following issue of dispatch I will tell about pluses and minuses of wholesale purchases in China, and also I will try to make an approximate plan of action for those who wishes to start to do business with China.

Alexander Merkulov
The adviser-analyst of project Made-in-China.ru
merkulov@made-in-china.ru
http://subscribe.ru/archive/economics.school.chinabusiness/200710/01074443.html


Этот материал взят из выпуска рассылки... публикуется без изменений и с уважением к автору, который указан ниже... Я не несу никакой ответственности за эту информацию и я не пытаюсь рекламировать с помощью нее указанные ею интернет - ресурсы и впредь.

"Ведение бизнеса с Китаем: примеры и советы. Выпуск №2.

В прошлом выпуске рассылки я рассказал о некоторых общих особенностях ведения бизнеса с Китаем и о принципах поиска китайских компаний-производителей.

В этом выпуске я опишу 3 самых популярных b2b интернет-каталога, где можно найти китайских бизнес-партнеров.

Как я уже говорил, концепция сайтов www.alibaba.com, www.made-in-china.com, www.globalsources.com принципиально не отличается: компания-производитель регистрируется там, указывает свои контактные данные и размещает информацию о своих товарах (картинка и подробное описание). В китайской версии Alibaba.com компания может также указать цены на свои товары (об этом чуть ниже).
У каждого сайта есть своя система рейтинга компаний. Чем выше рейтинг, тем больше товаров компании будет доступно в поиске, тем выше они будут в списке результатов, тем вероятнее потенциальный клиент их заметит. Иногда рейтинг и статус компании повышается автоматически, в зависимости от ее активности, времени регистрации, отзывов клиентов, количества товаров и др. А иногда повысить рейтинг можно заплатив определенную сумму создателю сайта.
Как бы то ни было, высокое положение в рейтинговой системе сайта говорит о серьезных намерениях компании, о ее желании получить больше клиентов. И наоборот, низкие рейтинги свидетельствуют о нежелании компании принимать участие в интернет-маркетинге.

Итак, небольшой сравнительный анализ самых популярных интернет-каталогов:

Alibaba.com
плюсы:
очень большое количество зарегистрированных компаний со всего мира;
активность всех участников сайта;
RSS ленты новых товаров;
большое количество справочной информации;
форум, на котором можно задать вопрос и получить вразумительный ответ.
минусы:
очень большое количество компаний и товаров зачастую сбивает с толку;
большое количество устаревших товаров или товаров без описания и с плохими фотографиями;
большое количество спама – после регистрации ваш почтовый ящик будет полон предложениями купить mp3 плеер или фирменные кроссовки по дешевке.

Made-in-China.com
плюсы:
на сайте представлены только китайские компании;
есть возможность вести поиск компаний по провинции;
при поиске по ключевому слову, можно выбрать, из какой категории показывать товары;
при просмотре товара можно увидеть, кем является компания, опубликовавшая товар: Manufacturer (производитель) или Supplier (поставщик) (спорное преимущество, так как любая компания может указать при регистрации, что она производитель, никто этого не проверяет).
минусы:
при поиске товаров, щелчок мышки на интересующем товаре открывает не подробное описание товара, а страничку компании, опубликовавшей этот товар;
заметно меньшее количество товаров и компаний, чем на Алибабе;
довольно скудная информационная составляющая сайта.

GlobalSources.com
полюсы:
гибкая система поиска позволяет найти более подходящие товары;
названия категорий товаров интуитивно более понятны, чем на Алибабе;
в контактных данных можно увидеть e-mail производителя товара;
возможность использовать инструмент “compare all suppliers” (сравнить всех производителей).
минусы:
число товаров и зарегистрированных компаний в разы меньше, чем на Алибабе;
большое количество рекламы в самых неожиданных местах;
страницы грузятся заметно медленнее, чем Made-in-China.com или Alibaba.com (вероятно, из-за территориальных особенностей интернет-каналов Владивостока, возможно в других регионах России отличия в скорости загрузки не столь значительны);
непонятная система рейтинга компаний-производителей.

Резюмируя этот небольшой анализ можно сказать, что Alibaba.com является бесспорным лидером среди b2b сайтов, на которых представлены производители Китая. Кстати, недавно (в августе 2007 г) у сайта появился новый дизайн, улучшилась система категорий, добавились некоторые поисковые функции.

Отдельно стоит упомянуть форум на Алибабе: это отдельный мощный информационный ресурс, активность на котором поощряется создателями сайта...." Читать полностью здесь: http://subscribe.ru/archive/economics.school.chinabusiness/200710/01074443.html


Александр Меркулов
консультант-аналитик проекта Made-in-China.ru
merkulov@made-in-china.ru

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FALSE SELLERS DISHONOUR China! China CAN not MAKE With THEM ANYTHING!!! ALIBABA.com does not wish anything to change! Even if to you will give tracking number true, it does not mean that you receive that wanted. You can receive the EMPTY BOX! And it will be YOUR ORDER.

Do not wish to be deceived? Look this history here...

DO NOT TRUST THIS COMPANY XiTe Trading Co., Ltd. there the same people as in Dandong Lilai Trading Co work., Ltd., Here the same manager Larry which has given here these co-ordinates for payment after has deceived many people in Dandong Lilai Trading Co., Ltd., Here the address where to you can suggest to send your payments
Western union Info:
first name: Xiufeng
last name: Su
City: Yantai Shandong
Zip code: 264001
Country: China
lilaimaoyi05@yahoo.com.cn
lilaimaoyi01@yahoo.com.cn
143 Huanghe Road, Yantai City, Shandong, China
XiTe Trading Co., Ltd. Now so this firm is called. And here their new site www.lapmobilephones.com
phone number is 86-535-6600371
Bank transfer Info:
Payee: Mei Huang
ACCOUNT: 380966021367872
Swift code: BKCHCNBJ51A
Advising bank: Bank of China, Yantai Branch
Bank address: 166 Jiefang Road, Yantai City, Shandong, China
DO NOT DO IT! YOU WILL lose MONEY!
Here phone Larry 86-535-6214020 which it gives.
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rry? feat = directlink - foto about it
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/535863/I_need_ info_regarding_Dandong_Lilai_Trading_Co_Ltd_. htm
Here it trades now They use yahoo messender:
Z: priper me 3 pcs
lilaimaoyi05: 540usd/pcs
Z: yes
Z: 1 pcs for credit card
lilaimaoyi05: is that ok
lilaimaoyi05: ?
Z: i want to pay now
Z: and u send me it now
Z: 1 pcs
Z: laptop
lilaimaoyi05: ok
lilaimaoyi05: which payment will you prefer?
lilaimaoyi05: western union,money gram or T/T?
Z: Give me the data of your credit card I will make transfer online
lilaimaoyi05: YE
lilaimaoyi05: OK
lilaimaoyi05: SO WILL YOU Pay 540usd online?
Z: I will translate to you 1000 usd for 1 laptop and n95 on remained you will send to me
lilaimaoyi05: that is ok ,dear friend
lilaimaoyi05: dear friend
lilaimaoyi05: you can pay by credit card to our western union ban_k a_c_c_ount
lilaimaoyi05: is that ok?
Z: You will send the address to me on email? And I send you the, well?
lilaimaoyi05: you can pay on western union website
Z: ok
Z: give me u phone
lilaimaoyi05: Western union Info:

first name: Xiufeng
last name: Su
City: Yantai Shandong
Zip code: 264001
Country: China

lilaimaoyi05: this is our western union pay ment detail
Z: ок but it not the full address
lilaimaoyi05: ok
lilaimaoyi05: i will give you our full address
Z: ok
lilaimaoyi05: 143 Huanghe Road,Yantai City,Shandong ,China
lilaimaoyi05: and our phone number is 86-535-6600371
Z: And your accunt give too
lilaimaoyi05: ok
lilaimaoyi05: ok
lilaimaoyi05: will you pay by bank transfer?
lilaimaoyi05: not western union?
lilaimaoyi05: which payment will you prefer ,pls
lilaimaoyi05: ?
Z: Yes 4000 usd
lilaimaoyi05: ok
lilaimaoyi05: Bank transfer Info:

Payee: Xiufeng Su
ACCOUNT: 380966021301931
Swift code : BKCHCNBJ51A
Advising bank: Bank of China ,Yantai Branch
Bank address: 166 Jiefang Road,Yantai City,Shandong ,China
Zip code: 26400
lilaimaoyi05: this is our bank transfer details
Z: Xiufeng Su - who is this?
lilaimaoyi05: our manager
Z: ok
lilaimaoyi05: when will you pay?
lilaimaoyi05: and will you pay by western union or bank transfer?
Z: today now
Z: And your address?
lilaimaoyi05: 143 Huanghe Road,Yantai City,Shandong ,China
lilaimaoyi05: this is our company address
Z: And the firm name
lilaimaoyi05: XiTe Trading Co., Ltd.

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